The Magician and the Fool Podcast

Unraveling esoteric thought and practice

E23 The Heart Sutra, with Rev Kosho Finch

January 26th, 2020



We welcome back Rev Kosho Finch of the Henjyoji Shingon temple, to talk about the fascinating Heart Sutra. 

The Heart Sutra has been described as the essence of Buddhism, and esoteric Buddhism in particular. It is said that the sutra has the potential to free one from suffering and shed light on the path that leads to awakening.

Kosho sensei lends his valuable insight and knowledge on the teaching, so that we may better understand the important lessons contained within. 

Our hope is that this topic has to potential to provide a helpful alternative perspective to the student of esotericism.

E22 Eoghan Craig Ballard: Traditional spirituality of African diaspora

November 28th, 2019



Join us as we speak with Espiritista Eoghan Craig Ballard to discuss the history and practice of African diaspora religions, and his personal journey into these traditions.

Mr Ballard enlightens us with his perspective on some of the most important concepts of the Afro-Caribbean paradigm. 

We talked about the nature of spirits in these traditions and how to work with them, the development of mediumship,  and so much more. A great introduction for anyone interested in learning about the ATRs, as well as a thoughtful examination for those already involved in those traditions.


cover art by Lawrence Zuñiga Batista


E21 Nikolas Schreck

November 1st, 2019



Halloween episode!
In this episode we had the unique opportunity to speak with the infamous artist, musician, author and teacher Nikolas Schreck. We discussed Nikolas' thoughts on sonic magic, the state of occulture, his personal initiatory experiences, Tantric Buddhism, the importance of compassion, the classic horror genre...and much much more.


E20 Aaron Cheak: The Alchemical gate of non-duality

September 16th, 2019



Dr Aaron Cheak joins us today to explore the depths of the Alchemical traditions. He describes Jean Gebser's diaphany and integral consciousness theories as they relate to the study of Alchemy....his understanding of the core and roots of the art, the importance of poison in moderation as a catalyst for growth, Zosimos and much much more.


His site


Rubedo Press



E19 Balthazar’s Conjure

August 21st, 2019




In this Episode we talk with the fascinating Balthazar of

Balthazar is a Rootworker, Medium, Diviner and Solomonic Magician based in Amsterdam. He hosts the popular Balthazar's Conjure YouTube channel, where he teaches his syncretic style of African folk magic and European spiritualism. 

We cover lots of interesting topics including:

Divination as a vehicle for healing, fate and free will in divination, The intersection of folk and ceremonial magic, Arthur Gauntlet and Madeline Montalban, ethics in magic, Blessed conditions, magical warfare and more!


Balthazar on YouTube:




The Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers:







E18 Artemis of the Ephesians with Dr James Rietveld

July 14th, 2019



In this episode we talk with Dr James Reitveld about his comprehensive work on the great Goddess Artemis of the Ephesians. Dr Rietveld takes us to the ancient metropolis of Ephesus in Anatolia and explains when, where and why this version of Artemis came to be. We discuss her connections to Isis, Cybele, Hekate, Demeter and the virgin Mary, as well as explore the rich symbolism that arises from this rich syncretism. We also talk about the fascinating Ephesian Grammata; their origins, uses and connections to the Greek Magical Papyri and Testament of Solomon. Also, we cant talk about Ephesus without discussing the extremely significant history it has in early Christianity. All of this and more. Enjoy!

Dr Rietveld:

His book:

Some YouTube videos:





E17 Angel Millar

June 6th, 2019




In this episode we are joined by author Angel Millar to discuss his upcoming book "The Three Stages of Initiatic Spirituality, Craftsman, Warrior, Magician".

We also talked about the importance of mind body balance as an improved esoteric paradigm, the impact and lessons of Yukio Mishima, Esoteric Freemasonry, the Islamic connections to Freemasonry and much more.

E16 M Isidora Forrest and the mysteries of Isis

May 20th, 2019



In this episode we were fortunate to be able to chat with author and priestess M Isidora Forrest on all things Isis. We spoke about the figure of Isis from the classic Egyptian periods through the Hellenistic and Roman periods in Egypt, The significance of magic as it relates to Isis as well as her connections to Thoth. Isadora also spoke about Isis in the PGM,  what it means to be a follower of Isis today....and much more.


Guest appearance on ‘My Alchemical Bromance’

May 5th, 2019



We were recently interviewed on the very cool 'My Alchemical Bromance' Podcast with Erik Arneson.

It was lots of fun, and maybe even a little controversial at times. 
We are looking forward to having Erik on our show in the near future.

We hope you enjoy!


E15 Sasha Chaitow; Josephin Peladan and the magic of art

March 18th, 2019



In this episode we talk to Sasha Chaitow PhD about the intriguing French Occultist Josephin Peladan and the symbolist movement of the late 1800s.
We discussed the power of art in esotericism, the neo-Platonic roots of Christian iconography, and much more.

Lots of fascinating information to digest!